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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Xeaon
As I see it, no matter how trivial warp to 0 seems to some, eve is going down a path many other decent mmos have gone before (UO, bah). If it keeps getting more and more dumbed down it will just die.
Its ironic that people feel this way, when gate camping and sniping are so simple even a monkey can do it. You want eve to be more difficult? Well, then try to think outside the box a little and see what eve pvp could BECOME if it wasnt for the counterstrike instaganks and killboards some people are so proud of.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Its ironic that people feel this way, when gate camping and sniping are so simple even a monkey can do it. You want eve to be more difficult? Well, then try to think outside the box a little and see what eve pvp could BECOME if it wasnt for the counterstrike instaganks and killboards some people are so proud of.
Been on sisi recently?
It is already much harder to "instagank" people.
A semi-reasonably fitted ship has little problem getting to a gate now.
Yes, warp to 0 makes it harder to instagank people. Thats why its a good change. People arguing against it because it dumbs down eve is what I was arguing against. Its the opposite, really. Now pirates have to work harder and be more organized to get kills.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
If you moved all lvl4 missions out of hi-sec do you think all the mission runners would move to lo-sec?
I doubt it, they would just grind lvl3 mission, and moan enough about quitting until CCP threw them a bone.
Those people will not face risk.
They believe they have a right to play unmolested.
They aren't playing Eve-Online, they are only playing a subset of it, and that is all they are willing to play.
They don't want anything to happen which they are not in control of.
You won't see them leave hi-sec until PvP is made consentual ...
Maybe you are right and they wouldnt leave high sec even if low sec was very profitable, but at least then the game would be fair in terms of risk/reward like it should be. So I think they should move level 4's to low sec. If the grinders want to spend their game in high sec with level 3's, and put in twice the amount of time to make the same bucks as in low sec, then so be it. But the ones who take the risks should get good rewards.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Maybe you are right and they wouldnt leave high sec even if low sec was very profitable, but at least then the game would be fair in terms of risk/reward like it should be. So I think they should move level 4's to low sec. If the grinders want to spend their game in high sec with level 3's, and put in twice the amount of time to make the same bucks as in low sec, then so be it. But the ones who take the risks should get good rewards.
I don't disagree, but that is an entirely different topic, non?
Yes, but everything is tied together. Oh well. :)
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Posted - 2006.11.10 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/11/2006 12:37:59
A skill sucks, because its just a time sink and everybody eventually trains it. Back to 0 with nothing changed. Except newbies wont have it and will get killed until they do...
No. Bad idea.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/11/2006 16:24:44
Originally by: Thor Xian
What Warp to Zero does is say CCP doesn't have the balls to simply get rid of instas without putting in a replacement 'feature'.
Yeah, because making bad decisions because its ballsy has always been a good idea... 
Seriously, things will be fine. Go have a hamburger. I will. 
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian
We will see, but I think the advent of the Hurricane has clouded your vision.
They usually do (hurricanes). 
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